35: "The 50 hour transition"

After naming their favorite Italian city, John and Gui discuss iOS design systems and cross-platform UI frameworks, augment Mark Gurman’s latest scoops, and talk about preparing for WWDC. Sponsored by Volta: Get 10% off the Volta 2.0 charge cable now by visiting voltacharger.com/stacktrace and using promo code 9to5TAKE10 at checkout. Enter our Apple Watch Series 4 giveaway here.  Stacktrace by 9to5Mac is available on iTunes and Apple’s Podcasts app or through our dedicated RSS feed for Overcast and other podcast players. Hosts: Gui on Twitter: @_inside John on Twitter: @johnsundell Links WWDC for macOS Imagine Engine Material design Microsoft’s Fluent design system Soor Mark Gurman’s latest report Apple Configurator AltConf